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8626 No.1   [Reply]

Hiroo Onoda, great hero. Does .71 agree?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroo_Onoda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qO14AZiYhg

>> No.2  

Hell, yeah. They even done a episode of The Six Million Dollar Man based on him...

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>> No.4  

>>1
Better page here:
http://muza-chan.net/japan/index.php/blog/japanese-officer-onoda

>> No.5  

There is no such thing as heroic chinks. Fail thread.

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Mad props to the old school. People see all these WWII veterans on TV and listen to them describe all the major events of their service in a calm collected manner, and never really get to see the whole of it. Everyone who comes back is scarred inside and out, but that generation was built of better stuff than we are. Nowadays on the fob you have air conditioning, video games, ffs you can get Burger King and Popeye's. It's funny that the stuff that would have made me a useful soldier back then is considered detrimental to my unit.

I may enlist in the French Foreign Legion when I ETS. At least I would be doing something productive. I know there a few other ex military in here with me, do you ever wake up feeling strange that you aren't back there? Is the real world ever trip you out with careless people are?

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Yes. I certainly don't consider myself part of ".71" ("I wouldn't want to be a member of any club that would have someone like me for a member" - Groucho Marx) but I very strongly agree that the man was a hero, possibly the highest and purest imaginable incarnation of the true Idea of "the hero".

He was an object of derision all through my childhood and adolescence - derision tinged with hatred and fear, as the guy was clearly also mortally dangerous - but that only makes him an even purer and higher embodiment of the Hero, since heroism always treads the almost invisibly thin line between the best and the most beautiful that Man is capable of rising to and the most grotesque and ridiculous faggotry that Man can sink to.

Yellow and slant-eyed though he is, he reminds me of the impeccably Teutonic Siegmund, the true hero of Wagner's "Ring" tetralogy, who, in this beautiful scene from Die Walküre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2t7ybyTI_Y

does a worthier thing than his son and nephew Siegfried ever does and rejects the eternal and infinite bliss of Heaven for the sake of staying faithful to one pathetically finite and mortal being whom he has once sworn not to abandon.

(My apologies for linking to a video that provides only German subtitles for the German. It makes things harder, I'll admit, for the quarter-educated amongst you, but I really couldn't bear to see the Boulez/Chereau Bayreuth production, in which the role of Siegmund was played by Rutger Hauer, "lost like tears in rain")

The "pathetically finite and mortal being" whom Onoda had sworn not to abandon was, of course, Japan, and it was all the more movngly finite and mortal because - without being an expert in Japanese history or sociology - I would bet that the increasingly practical and business-focussed Japs of the 1970s were laughing even harder at the guy, and despising him even more, than the rest of the world was.

And that again is the raising of his heroism to a yet greater power: true fidelity is only ever to a thing or a person that gives no fidelity or love in return but laughs at one and spits on one for one's foolishness.

The extreme Cracky-relevance here does not even need to be pointed, and nor does the relevance "à bien d'autres encor" (Baudelaire)

[08.09.2012 21:54:05] alexander reynolds: SEEMS like a total shallow slut
[08.09.2012 21:54:20] alexander reynolds: but there is a depth and a pathos there
[08.09.2012 21:56:40] jenny cams: If that's the truth, then why hasn't she seen who you really are?
[08.09.2012 21:57:31] alexander reynolds: well, do you want the realistic theory about that or the batshit crazy romantic theory?
[08.09.2012 21:57:47] jenny cams: Realistic
[08.09.2012 21:57:55] alexander reynolds: realistically, she probably just doesnt give a fuck
[08.09.2012 21:58:08] jenny cams: Bats it crazy?
[08.09.2012 21:58:21] jenny cams: Bat shit* auto correct sucks
[08.09.2012 21:59:15] alexander reynolds: I have this crazy idea in my head that she has avery very high, very very holy idea of how things could be between us, and she feels she is not "ready" yet
[08.09.2012 21:59:32] alexander reynolds: she's developing and growing very quickly in London
[08.09.2012 21:59:43] alexander reynolds: maybe she'll be ready soon
[08.09.2012 22:00:00] alexander reynolds: but until then she's going to keep up walls between us
[08.09.2012 22:00:21] alexander reynolds: and never even try to talk her about her feelings or my feelings
[08.09.2012 22:03:46] alexander reynolds: its a very romantic relationship...even despite the cam-whore element
[08.09.2012 22:06:06] jenny cams: I think you're delusional...
[08.09.2012 22:06:22] alexander reynolds: most people do
[08.09.2012 22:06:31] alexander reynolds: particularly other women
[08.09.2012 22:06:52] alexander reynolds: I suppose you know what is psychologically plausible for a woman
[08.09.2012 22:07:17] jenny cams: Probably because we understand one another. Doesn't seem like she interested. But I hope you get out of it what you want.
[08.09.2012 22:07:34] alexander reynolds: women don't have these "secret" feelings they keep in their hearts for years?
[08.09.2012 22:08:18] alexander reynolds: can "seeming" not be misleading when it's a matter of these things?
[08.09.2012 22:10:01] alexander reynolds: I dunno, I think I'd rather be a "fool" and believe in that stuff than be "wise" and not believe in it
[08.09.2012 22:13:15] jenny cams: I've never known a woman to be able to keep secret feeling from someone for years and years. Honestly... you're an easy target. You give her so much attention and you've put this almost godly image of her in your mind and heart. As much as some women say they don't like being the center of attention we all do. And you've just been feeding her ego. Not to mention she can easily manipulate you into giving her money. I know you say its a ritual, but to her it is easy money. Especially since she doesn't provide you with the same services as she provides to other men.
[08.09.2012 22:14:21] alexander reynolds: your first point may be right
[08.09.2012 22:14:48] alexander reynolds: I think its true that women need something real and concrete
[08.09.2012 22:15:17] alexander reynolds: so yes, its worrying that she lets years and years go by without our meeting or touching
[08.09.2012 22:15:46] alexander reynolds: but the money....well, I don't really feel exploited
[08.09.2012 22:16:19] alexander reynolds: I think it IS a ritual...she could make a lot more if she wanted
[08.09.2012 22:16:31] jenny cams: I maybe be a bigger whore than this girl but when I've have internet "relationships" with leople who were close I almost always met them.
[08.09.2012 22:16:32] alexander reynolds: in the end, I give her very little
[08.09.2012 22:16:59] alexander reynolds: well, we'll see
[08.09.2012 22:17:19] alexander reynolds: I find her decision to cross the Atlantic...interesting
[08.09.2012 22:17:43] alexander reynolds: when she was in Cali we would certainly never have been able to meet
[08.09.2012 22:17:55] jenny cams: Everyone wants to cross the Atlantic. Living in Europe is a dream for more people my age
[08.09.2012 22:17:57] alexander reynolds: now...obviously, we might very easly do so
[08.09.2012 22:18:07] jenny cams: So why haven't you?
[08.09.2012 22:18:32] alexander reynolds: God this conversation is depressing me
[08.09.2012 22:18:45] alexander reynolds: you're probably right Jenny
[08.09.2012 22:18:46] jenny cams: I'm sorry. :(
[08.09.2012 22:18:57] alexander reynolds: but leave me my dreams
[08.09.2012 22:19:32] jenny cams: I won't mention it anymore

>> No.8  

>>7
Second installment of "Let's be wrong about Wagner."

Just fuck off already. Go back to whineychat or wherever you get your rocks off bitching about online sweethearts and how they wronged you.

>> No.9  

>>8
It's OK.

I won't pursue it, as it's ineviatable that you and your kind are going to start doing your "fuck off pedo" turds all over anything I say, just because it's me who happens to say it.

The very idea that one can be "wrong" and "right" about Wagner is plain enough proof of the infantile crudity of your thinking.

But it's probably thinking at a level more appropriate for this place than any thinking that I would be in a position to contribute.

I wish you luck with it.

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>>7
You know when you don't lash out and instead decide to discuss RavRav you are a pretty beautiful person Alex.

>> No.11  

>>10
Well, thankyou. But you give me no more than my due, of course. I am a fine and decent old gentleman who accords to every individual human being that nuanced and essentially infinite and inexhaustible respect that each person, qua person, MUST be accorded (Immanuel Kant).

By the way, I see from the Wikipedia article linked to in the original post that "the English progressive rock band Camel released a concept album 'Nude' which is based on Onoda."

That might be an interesting, constructive - and needless to say, decent and humanly respectful - direction in which to develop this thread.

I already have the one where her top's off and she's holding an excitingly generously-proportioned penis in her hand. But does anyone have one of her actually being penetrated by said penis - ideally, anally?

I'd be willing to pay a good price for it - either in cash or in small, pocket-sized quanta of my personal moral beauty

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>>11
( ´∀`)wwwwww

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>>12
Damn you MA and you unsuported script ಠ_ಠ

>> No.14  

>>9
"just because it's me who happens to say it."

Yes yes, we've all heard that particular delusion before. You always trod it out when someone disagrees with you. Lapdog this and that, etc etc.

"The very idea that one can be "wrong" and "right" about Wagner is plain enough proof of the infantile crudity of your thinking."

Big words for someone who's hellbent on being "righ" about it.

"But it's probably thinking at a level more appropriate for this place than any thinking that I would be in a position to contribute."

Yessss, bawsies and more bawsies, as usual. "thinking at a level" blahblahblah, go stuff tokens in a girls virtual underpants because you're too much of a coward to go out to an actual stripclub. Oh, but I forget, in a stripclub the girls won't be able to pick up on your erudition and finesse, and how you really want them to understand you, the real you; that you're not just lusting after their bodies, but appreciate them for what they are.

NOW FUCK OFF ALREADY

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>>14

no u gtfo

>> No.16  

>>7

I bet if Wagner were alive and reading your tl;dr faggotry, he'd think you were a right cunt as well as a pedo wankstain, old boy...

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>>14
INCOMING

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>>16

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>> No.20  

Well, good try, OP.

But it's always a mistake, it seems, to imagine that a board like this one is going to have much of an "opinion" on anything aside from what a biiiiiiiiiiiig poopoo babby-babs did out his botty-bottom.

Better luck next time.

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We will now resume our regularly scheduled thread.

>> No.22  

>>20
"Better luck next time."

I doubt that, because next time you'll be right around the corner in spite of having huffed off never to returns once again, ready to fill the board with the details of crap you stirred up elsewhere, dragging the associated drama here and blaming everyone else for it.

>> No.23  

>>20
So what, you like scat now? Why are you always fucking talking about shit?

>> No.24  

>>22
Jesus Christ, will you just stop with your obsessive nonsense.

I don't know what your problem is exactly - i.e whether you're one of that narcissistic little chav's trained poodles, or whether it's rather a matter of my having corrected your grammar back in 2008 and your STILL not having gotten over it - but you must realize that you are making a complete fool of yourself.

My first post was quite plainly and indisputably entirely relevant to the thread and didn't contain the tiniest modicum of "drama".

(Just in case you can't read, the transcript of the conversation about RavRav expresses only love and praise for her,and I would contend that the analogy Siegmund-Sieglinde / Hiroo Onoda-"ideal Japan" / me-RavRav is an interesting one that stands up pretty well. Nothing the least bit destructive or distractng there, unless you consider the very existence of an "off-topic" thread to be destructive.)

Now look at YOUR contributions. NOTHING BUT irrelevant, uninteresting, destructive personal abuse from start to finish. Not even an ATTEMPT to contribute something positive to the thread.

And you have the cheek to talk about "filling the board with crap"?

>> No.25  

Imagine what life would be like if Alex was dead.

Just imagine it.

It helps me have good dreams if I think about it before I go to sleep.

>> No.26  

>>23
A short selective list of the topics I've talked about in this thread alone would be:

Wagnerian opera; the sociology of modern Japan; the moral philosophy of Kant; infants shitting on the floor

I suspect that the explanation for your forming the impression that I am "always talking about shit" is that you naturally tend to blank out those among these topics that you can't understand and focus in one the one you can.

>> No.27  

>>26
I focus on that one because it's the one you are the most enthusiastic about.
Why haven't you eaten those glass shards yet?

>> No.28  

>>26

You'll be spoiling Wagner for me, with your insistence that no-one else is fit to join in your rambling monologues, go throw shite at the moon you pedo wankstain.

>> No.29  

>>27
Really? Scatology is my big perversion now, is it?

I got the impression that what "everybody knew" was that I'm a pedophile?

The word "bat" occurs in the first post I made on this thread (albeit only within the phrase "batshit").

Wanna run with that one and make "Alex practices bestiality" the next thing you shit the board up with.

Please go away.

You are obviously here for one reason and one reason alone: to bait and to spew infantle hate at me.

Which means that, as I am just barely tolerated here, you - who are clearly fucking obsessed with me - are DEFINITELY not welcome

>> No.30  

>>29

But Alex, everyone DOES know you're a pedophile...

>> No.31  

>>30
Zing!

Wow, you really MUST know your Wagner!

The originality of thought! The effortless, spontaneous brilliance....

>> No.32  

>>29
...and now that I think about it, I seem to remember cash sums being offered to some female if she would shit on your head... oh, Alex...

>> No.33  

>>32
Yes...

And I'm sure that, in a few weeks or months - indeed, given your pathetic obsession, probably still in a few YEARS - you'll "seem to remember" Rutger Hauer singing the role of Siegmund in the Boulez/Chereau production of "The Ring".

And why is that?

Because you are TOO FUCKING STUPID, HUMOURLESS, AND OVERFLOWING WITH IMPOTENT HATE to be able to tell the difference between a seriously-intended statement and a JOKE, that's why.

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>>33

You're just angry because she said no.

>> No.35  

>>34
Does it piss anyone else off that people whose "contributions" to this thread have contained EXACTLY ZERO Cracky content, and whose only interest is shitting up a Cracky board with personal vendettas and abuse, still insist on sticking photos of Cracky next to their shit-posts.

I really am beginning to smell the sort of "Crackyfag" here who forced Jeff to close down his board because the hypocrisy was becoming just a little TOO obvious.

>> No.36  

>>24

>Just in case you can't read,

Hahahahaaaaa.

I'll give you a clue then:

"THE TRANSCIPT OF THE CONVERSATION ABOUT RAVRAV"
[Edited for CLUE CAPS]

What the hell are you thinking ? That someone --anyone-- is interested in your online "flings"?
Your deluded comparisons between Wagner's works and your quest for token-driven hot online "pathos" ?

>Jesus Christ, will you just stop with your obsessive nonsense.

I'm pretty sure even Jesus would actually think you're a jerk at this point.

>Please go away.

Please, pretty please ?

>> No.37  

>>35

>personal vendettas

I think it's pretty universal really. It's just that this is probably the only board on the entire Internet he hasn't been banned from yet.

>> No.38  

>>36
I really wouldn't bother with this normally, but a case of stupidity and general intellectual and aesthetic obtuseness like yours really is pretty instructive.

There is no doubt at all in my mind that you have never listened to a Wagner opera from beginning to end in your life.

I doubt if you have ever listened to anything of Wagner's or read a single word of any of his librettos.

You appear to be one of these sad little people who walks past opera houses trembling and shaking with a mixture of

(i) cringing subservience before those whom you believe have a share in some "high culture" that you have never had a share in

and

(ii) sullen hatred of the same people for that very same imaginary reason.

Try going in sometime - it really doesn't cost that much more than a ticket to a multiplex - and actually LISTENING to a production of "The Ring".

You might be struck....well, no, I doubt if you have the perception to be struck by something like this... but a halfway intelligent person might be struck by how the situation Alberich finds himself in vis-à-vis the Rhine Maidens...or indeed the wretched and miserable sexual and social experiences that Siegmund evokes in his beautiful narrative beginning

"Friedmund darf ich nicht heissen...."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mptnboU5m8g

have ENORMOUSLY much in common with the experience of a cam-john in his dealings with a cam-whore, particularly where - as in the case of two cam-whores who have recently been discussed on this board - the "whores" in question are girls one might conceivably have some emotional and human relation to.

You see, this is what someone like yourself, who - whether due to poverty, stupidity, or bitter class resentment, I cannot say - has never actually EXPERIENCED "high art" always totally misunderstands about it.

"Comparisons" between the situations that Wagner evokes and one's own experience - even (and maybe particularly) one's own sad and degraded and ugly experience - are NOT "deluded". They are exactly what Wagner WANTED. His art, like all art, was about LIFE - not, as you appear to think, about what cocktail one chooses to drink at the bar in the interval.

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>>38

Let's put this drivel through the tl;dr-a-tron and see what comes out:

'You wretched oiks are too piss-poor and uneducated to listen to Wagner or read stuff... but why won't the pretty young girls suck my syphilitic dick'?

>> No.40  

>>38
"I really wouldn't bother with this"

I think you mean "always". The word you are looking for is "always".

>You might be struck....well, no, I doubt if you have the perception to be struck

Sorry I know more about Wagner than you do. But, hey, whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

>Alberich finds himself in vis-à-vis the Rhine Maidens.

That's a pretty far cry from your earlier comparison to "Siegmund-Sieglinde", wouldn't you say ? Even a Wagner pretender like yourself should know that.

But still, comparing your little escapades to Alberich's plight is so far off base it's just not funny anymore.

Repeat after me, "Rheingold does not consist of tokens."

Also, Alberich went out and conquered the world whereas you can't even manage not to fumble your fingers and shoot off your mouth on an online image board.

>> No.41  

>>39
"this drivel"

I'd say that's basically what all his drivel amounts to.

>> No.42  

P.S.

Alberich is funny. It's always a delight when he gets to do stuff on stage.
Alex ? Not so much ...

>> No.43  

>>39
As anyone can see from my posts, I have absolutely nothing against anyone deciding not to listen to Wagner.

All I object is people deciding not to listen to Wagner and then screeching and bawling - as the posters of 8, 16 and 36 do, about what "Wagner would have thought" of the "deluded comparisons" drawn by someone who HAS listened to Wagner.

Grasped that, have you?

>> No.44  

>>43

As the poster of #16, I am proud to own the entire Ring cycle which I got for £5 from Superdrug, causing you to sneer at me for this purchase, in one of your now-legendary rants that became a benchmark for your retardedness. I still maintain that were Wagner here, right now, he'd have your arms pinioned behind your back as myself and my fellow poster took turns in kicking the seven colours of crap out of you.

That is all.

>> No.45  

>>43
"deluded comparisons"

YES BECAUSE YOU GETTING YOUR ROCKS OFF TO A CAMGIRL IS TOTALLY COMPARABLE TO HIGH ART AND A GOOD IDEA ALSO

retard

>> No.46  

>>40
As I say, this is completely pointless.

It's clear, I think, to anyone of intelligence and good will that the allusion I made to Wagner in my first post on this thread was not made to show off.

It really was just the first thing that occurred to me, as I listen to "The Valkyrie" almost daily, finding it as I do a great comfort and inspiration in my life.

As I just said, though, people like yourself, with no actual lived relation to culture, will always fly into a frenzy of "let's see who's better than who!" as soon as anything "high-falutin'" is mentioned.

This happens EVERY TIME I mention opera on here. Someone - probably always the same guy - feels his "territory" has been stepped on and the whole thing becomes some ridiculous shouting-match about "who the hero is", "what it really means" and other such infantile, reductivist pseudo-questions.

I really don't give a shit about competing against you in the "Wagner round" of some infantile quiz show.

I quoted him because I love him.

Make of that what you will.

>> No.47  

>>46

tl;dr-a-tron says:

'I told you before, you comprehensive school kids are too dumb to appreciate Wagner. And I want to suck his dick - but only after he's shat on my head'

>> No.48  

Mr Reynolds, I have a question for you, and I mean it in a serious and objective way:

Why haven't you OD'd?

It's just that, if I didn't have any kind of life or fulfillment outside of cam sites, and if I only ever socialized on the internet with a tiny group of misfits, and if 9 out of 10 of those misfits who could be absolutely anyone wanted me to go die, I don't think I'd disagree with them.

>> No.49  

>>46
Ahem

"That's a pretty far cry from your earlier comparison to "Siegmund-Sieglinde", wouldn't you say ? "

so basically you expertized yourself into a corner, and now it's not important anymore and you're backpaddling?

I WIN. I WIN X-MAS!

Anyway,

"It's clear, I think, to anyone of intelligence and good will ..."

yes yes, blahblah

"that the allusion I made to Wagner in my first post on this thread was not made to show off."

fine, granted. But then you go on and post some godforsaken chat log with one of your "girls" and start making comparisons between Wagner's "immortal drama" and your own brand of "drama that just won't stay dead."

NO!
You life has no place here. Why can't you get that into your thick head ?
Post Wagner if you must, even if it's unrelated to Cracky. Post Wagner in combination with Cracky, and everyone will be delighted.
But who the fuck is Alex Reynolds and why should I care ?

>> No.50  

>>45
For the instruction of any innocent young people who may have wandered onto this board:

Arguing that "high art" is about "pure and noble things" and "not comparable" to "getting your rocks off to a camgirl" is a fairly infallible sign that one is pretty much totally ignorant of "high art", i.e. has seldom if ever read a serious novel or listened to a serious piece of theatre or music theatre in one's life.

The number of significant works of serious art produced in the past three hundred years that DO deal with relations with prostitutes

"Manon Lescaut" in Prevost's and Puccini's versions

Flaubert's "L'Education Sentimentale"

Wedekind's "Buechse der Pandora", and Berg's operatic and Pabst's cinematic adaptations of same

Zola's "Nana" and Godard's adaptation of this into "Vivre sa Vie"

Brecht's "Drei-Groschen-Oper", along with the John Gay original

to name just nine, is equal, if not superior to the number that DON'T.

The scorning of "whores" and the idiot adulation of "art" is the sign of a man who probably knows very little about teh former - or who has been pathetically embittered by what he does know of them - and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the latter.

>> No.51  

>>50
"Arguing that "high art" is about "pure and noble things" and "not comparable" to "getting your rocks off to a camgirl" "

Nice strawman. This is about how you keep on posting about your own personal relations with prostitutes on this board. It has nothing to do with
'The scorning of "whores" and the idiot adulation of "art"'
and everything with you bleathing about RavRav and how it's really not whoremongering but something "deeper" and more "intellectual".

You lose!

>> No.52  

>>49
As I said, I really don't want to get into an argument with some ignoramus about whether one can or can't compare Siegmund with Alberich or whatever the fuck.

It's infantile.

Go and argue with this year's director of "The Ring" at Bayreuth about whether his production "gets it right" or not and what you will "allow" him to suggest and what you won't.

He'll laugh in your face, as he would in the face of any idiot who runs around shouting about what an "expert" he is on such matters.

And as to bringing myself into things - this again is probably something a person like you, with your sad little point-scoring, quantifying relation to culture, writing and art can NEVER understand, but speaking FROM AND FOR ONE'S OWN EXPERIENCE is a GOOD thing, not a bad one.

Language, art, EVERYTHING, is DEAD without that. Indeed, ironically - as the idiotic, repetitive Cracky-spamming shows - the people most determined on being "ego-less" and "anonymous" will always end up the ones who most crudely and brutally assert THEMSELVES.

>> No.53  

>>52

>As I said, I really don't want to get into an argument with some ignoramus ...

Hmm, you don't say ...

>He'll laugh in your face, as he would in the face of any idiot who runs around shouting about what an "expert" he is on such matters.

Hmm, you don't say ...

>And as to bringing myself into things

Hmm, you DON'T SAY ...

>who most crudely and brutally assert THEMSELVES.

HMM, YOU DON'T SAY ...

At least you managed to write the word "cracky" in your post ...
Maybe you should actually try and read books instead of reading about books.

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Both of you break it the fuck up. Go sit in your corners until you can both act in a mature fashion. This is Cracky's board. Let it go on in peace.

>> No.55  

>>53
OK.

That's enough, I think.

Once again, a potentially interesting thread destroyed by some idiot obsessive cunt who saw

ALEX POST IN IT!!!

and began frothing at the mouth with insatiable hatred that will just go ON AND ON AND ON AND ON with vicious shit-post after vicious shit-post until

HE GETS TO SAY WHO CAN POST ON THIS BOARD AND WHO CAN'T.

Fuck you all. You deserve the shit that piles up here.

>> No.56  

Worst 'Ring' I ever heard (on BBC R3) was when they all dressed up in Armani suits and brought on two six-foot-tall syringes during the 'blood-brothers' section... the producer said it was 'all about AIDS'...
...and so are you, Alex, so are you.

>> No.57  

>>54
I think this is the most annoying shit of all.

It just shows how easy it is for a cunt like this "Wagner bully" to WIN if he keeps punchng and kicking and spitting away long enough.

The contribution that I made to this thread - post 7 - was civil, constructive and even Cracky-relevant (clearly, Cracky is also someone one "holds out for 30 years in the jungle" for).

All this cunt had to do was spit ignorant poison at that post for 5 posts, then 10 posts, then 15 posts and hey presto! eventually the inevitable:

"Oh Alex and some other guy are causing drama again!"

"Oh they're both as bad as each other!"

As I say, fuck the lot of you.

>> No.58  

>>55
"Once again, a potentially interesting thread destroyed by some idiot obsessive cunt who saw"

Heh, like you ever fucking cared about anything on this board except for your own retarded rants about your personal life, but feel free to shift the blame, you coward; blame-shifting is the story of your life, after all.

"Fuck you all. You deserve the shit that piles up here."

There's surprisingly little of it once you're on your bi-weekly "forever" leave.
I know, I know, correlation is not causation, but I do feel that the aforementioned "shit" and your verbal diarrhea are somehow related.

>> No.59  

>>54
He started it!

I submit >>7
"[08.09.2012 21:54:05] alexander reynolds: SEEMS like a total shallow slut", etc

to be entered into evidence that Alex Reynolds is a total irredeemable cunt.

>> No.60  

>>54

and a dork also!

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>>51

As resident misogynist, I'll go with Alex on this as All women are whores, you're just too fucking stupid and gay to see it.

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>>61

ROFL u cock jockey

>> No.63  
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>>62

No u

>> No.64  
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OP here. Alex, why do you mess up a good thread?
What has RavRav got to do with Hiroo Onoda? Do you see yourself as the struggling hero, refusing to surrender despite all the signs, because we sure don't. Your 'relationship' with her is irrelevant to Lt. Onoda, Wagner and this thread.
If you want to talk about RavRav, please make your own thread. Don't shit up mine.

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The Six Million Dollar Man approves of Cracky-Chan and is instructed by OSI to kill Alex on sight.

>> No.66  

>>64
"Your 'relationship' with her is irrelevant to Lt. Onoda, Wagner and this thread"

You are clearly very confused.

You seem to accept the relevance of the Wagner aanalogy - which, in case you haven't noticed, I introduced - but to refuse to accept the more personal analogy which I also introduced.

You show no appreciation of my having introduced the former into the thread but just immediately launch into an attack on me for "ruining" it with the latter.

You appear generally to be blind to the undeniable fact that, of the 60 or so posts on this thread, my first post is one of the (at most) four or five that are on topic and that attempt to address the OP's question: was Onoda a hero?

Almost all the other posts are on what is now evidently pretty much the SOLE topic of this board: how much we hate Alex, no matter what he posts, no matter what he says, no matter what he does.

Current ratio of Cracky-posts to Alex-hate posts on 71:

876 : 1

Shut this fucking place down if you can't do better than that

>> No.67  

>>66

>refuse to accept the more personal analogy which I also introduced.

yes

>Shut this fucking place down if you can't do better than that

alternatively, you could just leave it alone

>> No.68  

>>66Current ratio of Cracky-posts to Alex-hate posts on 71:

876 : 1

You never counted 'em, admit it.

>> No.69  

>>67
He was just on tinychat bitching and whining about how everyone on .71 is obsessed with him and won't leave him alone. And yet here he is, desperately bumping his hate threads and wrecking the ones that contain good content. I thought, alex, that .71 in incapable of adding any good content? Maybe that's just wishful thinking on your part. After all, you did tell me to go ask Jeff to make an alex hate board.

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>>66
OP again. You appear blind, Alex, to the fact that it was you who (even within that first, mostly on-topic post of yours) took this thread off course. You are the reason we've had 60 or so posts of pointless bickering, because you couldn't stick to the topic, but had to introduce RavRav to the thread.
Please don't respond. Please leave this thread alone.

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>>6
There are many folks online tempted by the French Foreign Legion. It's certainly got a real history to it.
You might, however, consider the Spanish Foreign Legion - they're less well known, but they're good guys.
But you're right, there's been a general change in character between the 'old days' and now. This is visible all over the world. Onoda himself recognised it when he returned.
It's especially visible in the ex-axis powers, Japan's new culture of anime and cuteness is in direct contradiction to their earlier warrior spirit. I would value the input of any Nips on what they feel on the matter of modern Japanese culture; Germans too.
http://youtu.be/v_sCCklhMtY

>> No.72  

>>70
Fuck you, I'll respond if someone chooses to address me - although, yes, there's little point in trying to "dialogue" with people like you.

Once again, you are adopting the Internet bully's tactic of talking about opinions that you happen individually to hold as if they were "truths of reason" that MUST, by simple logic, be accepted by anyone.

This thread is obviously not one in which the "Cracky or GTFO" card can be played. It's plainly only of OBLIQUE relevance to Cracky, if of any relevance at all.

So the point at which discussion about it goes "off topic" is obviously a matter of personal individual judgment.

Some people might say that to start to talk about the Foreign Legion is to take it off-topic, as it is "plainly a thread about Japanese matters".

Others might say that discussion of the Foreign Legion, or Hitler, or Operation Desert Storm, is OK, because it is plainly a "thread about the military".

I think that MY personal interpretation of "what this thread is about" was an interpretation that "belongs" on this board MORE THAN ANY OF THESE OTHER INTERPRETATIONS DO.

I interpreted it as a sort of encoded Cracky thread. I understood the allusion to Onoda's hopeless romantic persistence, for years and years, in a service that was in fact long since not being asked of him, to be a sort of "allegory" of the Crackyfag's love for Cracky - who, as Japan did vis-à-vis Onida and his loyalty to the Emperor, has long since "become something entirely different".

The analogy between Onoda's military loyalty and the mad, romantic persistence in romantic love is, I think, a very clear and sound one.

I was the only one who tried to develop it and I'm sorry if I did so by reference to a girl who MEANS something to me, and not to Cracky, who means nothing to me.

There is surely no denying, however, that the themes touched on in the transcript I posted are ALL themes that might ALSO have been touched on in a conversation between a Crackyfag and a woman sceptical and disapproving of Cracky ("you're delusional", "she doesn't care", "what is the point of loving someone who will never love you?" etc.)

Now are you seriously contending that taking the thread in THAT direction - discussing the theme of hopeless but enduring love by the example of a girl who isnt Cracky but has cosplayed her, is currently living with an irl friend of Cracky's etc. - is "taking it off topic" while discussing different conceptions of military honour in Japan, Germany and France etc ISN'T?

>> No.73  

>>72

>I think that MY personal interpretation of "what this thread is about"

but all the threads you participate in somehow turn out to be about you and what you're up to.
your escapades are simply not that interesting to anybody but you, and you seem to be unwilling to accept that, taking it all personally.

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>>72

>there's little point in trying to "dialogue" with people like you

Ha ha you snobby pedo cunt

>Internet bully's

Poor you, it's all about you - ever get the feeling that - just perhaps - they are NOT actually 'bullies', but simply that you just don't belong, old man?

>I think that MY personal interpretation of "what this thread is about" was an interpretation that "belongs" on this board MORE THAN ANY OF THESE OTHER INTERPRETATIONS DO.

Nope, epic fail. You have your own fag board somewhere, as well as that one with the Bosnian bearded cultist guy to spam so "Cracky or GTFO", faggo.

>> No.75  

>>72

>I'm sorry if I did so by reference to a girl who MEANS something to me, and not to Cracky, who means nothing to me.

Apology accepted. Just don't let it happen again .. and again ... and again.

>> No.76  

>>74
Has anybody noticed that neither of these guys - or this one guy samefagging - actually responds to WHAT I SAID:

What I said was:

I interpreted the OP as starting a thread about Onoda on a Cracky board because he beleved that there was an analogy between Onoda's loyalty to a Japan that no longer existed and the Crackyfag's love for a girl who didn't care and has gone away.

I tried to develop that analogy as best I could, with the materials that mean something to me, and that describe an experience VERY like your experience of Cracky (and please don't start with that "there is no resemblance; she's a whore and you pay her" bullshit; as the one person who read the transcript recognized, the love expressed in it is beautiful and pure...and hopeless).

But now the OP appears to be denying that suggesting this analogy was ever part of his intention at all.

He appears to be claiming that he posted about an aged Japanese soldier just for the sake of posting about an aged Japanese soldier.

In which case, the inevitable next question must be: "Were you aware that this is a CRACKY board? Fuck off to your own fag board somewhere where you can exchange photos of Yukio Mishima and other naked Jap queers:"

>> No.77  

>>76

>neither of these guys actually responds to WHAT I SAID:

Gee whizz, Alex. Maybe they're just returning the favour. Or maybe they just can't be bothered to "want to get into an argument with some ignoramus".

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>>76

no u

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>>71
I couldn't resist

>> No.80  

>>77
Bullshit.

As everyone can plainly see, I am the ONLY person using this board who attempts to respond concretely and systematically to statements made by other people.

I offer you EVERY CHANCE, OVER AND OVER AGAIN, to show that you are not ignorant and CAN conduct rational discussion.

And EVERY time, the best you can do is

"No U...U did it"

"Fuck off pedo cunt"

and then the inevitable

"You ruined the thread"

>> No.81  

There would not be over 9000 Anti-Alex posts in this thread if he had stop posting on this particular subject after posting >>11, and never posted >>24. Sure >>8 was a troll, and I even suspect it was Alex starting his own hate thread, he most certainly does that, notwithstanding his denials...

Nah, whoever started it, Alex is fueling it and using it in his anti-Cracky crusade, the same he always has been on:

"Shut this fucking place down if you can't do better than that"

This is nothing new.

"Shut it down so my weak-willed ass wont come back to this place I hate"

You simply never should have come here, now you're stuck here. Shut the fuck up and face the facts, as long as you are being an asshole, shit is all that ever is gonna comme outta you, the only reason this feud is still going on is because you want it to.

And I'm sorry to have to chime in differently, but I dont see Mr Onoda as heroic, but rather as a very determined and very loyal soldier. Very commendable, to be sure, but heroism implies a distinguishing action that is more punctual than even the most honorable service records actually can ever be...

Or then Alex would be a hero for surviving amongst hostiles such as us.

Imagine that.

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>>80

>"You ruined the thread"

But you did. No-one wants to play with you, Alex, go home.

Oddly, as I type this, I reading a critique on Clockwork Orange - observe:

"It is noteworthy here that Dr. Brodsky treats Alex as a sick being, needing to be transformed so that he might act normally "

/thread

>> No.83  

>>82
Yeah, and that is, sadly, about as far as you are ever likely to get in your comprehension of that novel - which is not even especially subtle or intelligent but is certainly FAR too subtle and intelligent for YOU.

Your excitement over having found someone called Alex in a BOOK! - a BOOK teeheehee! - is obviously now going to overload the three brain cells you had left to work with and render you incapable of grasping that the whole POINT and MORAL of Burgess's novel is that the concept of "sick beings" is a specious one and that "Ludovico's Technique" is an offense against Man's essential quality of ethical responsibility.

Inb4 another stupid pointless fucking "No U" argument with semi-illiterates who claim they read the Cliff Notes on Anthony Burgess so they "know more than you do lolol I win I win"

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>>71
Yeah but the problem with joining the SFL is you will have to deal with Spaniards.

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>>83

Again, you tell us we're not smart enough to see the 'Emperors New Clothes' and then wonder why no-one wants to talk to you.

As the only person on this board, nay, the entire interwebz, to have read books and listened to Wagner, why don't you... go take a flying fuck to yourself, you old pedo cunt.

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...come to think of it, the Alex in 'Clockwork Orange' was a pedo too, because in the book, the two girls he picks up in the record shop are of primary school age, but in the film they are fully-fleshed young women.

>> No.87  

>>86
He probably met them on Skype then arranged to 'bump into' them in the shop.

>> No.88  

>>87
Watch that...Do watch that, Oh Dim, if to continue to be on live thou dost wish...

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>>81
As regards heroism, I'm not sure I get what you mean. Why is a single action more heroic than thirty years of endurance?
Certainly, there's great glory in a 'punctual' action far surpassing those which normal men perform, but is there not an even greater heroism in grimly hanging on, even when both enemy and ally seem to have disappeared? I don't think we can limit heroism to single actions.

verification: buckable

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>>84
Yes but the French are less a people, than a mass of unwashed rabble held together by contempt and a mutual love of cheese.

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>>90

Say it ain't so. They gave us De Sade, Jean Michel Jarre and Jules Verne.

>> No.92  
>Yes but the ... are less a people, than a mass of unwashed rabble held together by contempt and a mutual love of ..

we could have our own country then. I suggest we call it `Liaia'

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>>83
I try to avoid having thoughts. They lead to other thoughts, and—if you’re not careful—those lead to actions. Actions make you tired. I have this on rather good authority from someone who once read it in a book

>> No.94  

>>91
It would appear from the way that it is developing that this thread, then, really WAS just a thread about totally Cracky-irrelevant matters slapped down randomly in the middle of a Cracky board, and not the "analogy with Cracky-love" thread I took it to be.

Can't work out, though, why, if that is the case, it isn't full of people screaming "THIS IS ABOUT CRACKY; THIS DOESN'T BELONG HERE".

Oh yeah, of course, stupid of me, now I remember.

It's because you've all got each other's dicks rammed a mile down each other oesophaguses and because this is den of mutual fawning, slobbering and general "good-buddy-ism" where the "This is About Cracky" bullshit is only ever used to beat someone who isn't "one of the guys"

>> No.95  

>>94
Why are you here, then?

>> No.96  

>>92
Aha.

"Liaia".

Well that DEFINITELY explains the air of

"I wuvvy-wuvvy-WUVVY you....Do you wuvvy-wuvvy-WUVVY me?

that I noted in my previous post.

Welcome to Room 101, folks.

It's a moveable feast, apparently.

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>>94

GTFO pedo.
Remember Beethovens 9th, and: 'steal away, in tears, alone'... your favourite lyrics from that opus, if I remember rightly...

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ANY insults I fling at Alex, regardless of the thread content, are relevant to Cracky.
Why is this?
Because the Sky Queen herself informed me, IN A VISION, that Alex is evil and should have unrelenting scorn and indignation heaped upon him by the righteous. So fuck off, you creepy pedo wankstain. :p

>> No.99  

>>94
It's really more like a game of free association to kill time; a silly ritual during the time of waiting, if you will. Just hanging and socializing, in as far as is possible.

Someimes it might be Cracky, sometimes it's not. The problem however, is, whenever you play, it's not "free" association at all. Because every single association you turn up leads to a "RavRav" and how it is involved in you personal life. And whenever it's mentioned to you, you blow up and get abusive.

Of course people don't want to play with you. Maybe it's not all about Cracky, but that doesn't imply it all has to be about you.

>to beat someone who isn't "one of the guys"

Okay then, name one who is "one of the guys". Surprise, there's no one! It's really just you.

>> No.100  

>>96
"I wuvvy-wuvvy-WUVVY you....Do you wuvvy-wuvvy-WUVVY me?"

you now owe the board 1 tokens. you can't expect to utter that sort of language online for free now, can you ? you should know better than that.

>> No.101  

>>96
Lia means something different here than on CH. On CH Lia refers to Ophelia, and here it refers to Olivia. A pretty common mistake I have seen since the fall of CH. I have no problem educating our guests one at a time.

>> No.102  

>>101
Stop being a wanker we all know what it means.
Nice post number.

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If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

>> No.104  

>>102
with the influx from CH apparently not everyone knows.

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>>103
what you did there. I see it.

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>>105
I'm brilliant as well as skilled. It's a great burden, all of that on top of my angelic good looks. But I try to soldier on as best I can.

>> No.107  

>>71
It doesn't really matter so long as I can move to a notion that isn't ignorant, backwards, and hate filled. If that means I have to go play soldier for five more years, fine. I want a better life for myself and my girl.

>> No.108  

>>82 nobody wants to play with you either poopiehead, gtfo.

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>>108
WB?



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