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I really wouldn't bother with this normally, but a case of stupidity and general intellectual and aesthetic obtuseness like yours really is pretty instructive.
There is no doubt at all in my mind that you have never listened to a Wagner opera from beginning to end in your life.
I doubt if you have ever listened to anything of Wagner's or read a single word of any of his librettos.
You appear to be one of these sad little people who walks past opera houses trembling and shaking with a mixture of
(i) cringing subservience before those whom you believe have a share in some "high culture" that you have never had a share in
and
(ii) sullen hatred of the same people for that very same imaginary reason.
Try going in sometime - it really doesn't cost that much more than a ticket to a multiplex - and actually LISTENING to a production of "The Ring".
You might be struck....well, no, I doubt if you have the perception to be struck by something like this... but a halfway intelligent person might be struck by how the situation Alberich finds himself in vis-à-vis the Rhine Maidens...or indeed the wretched and miserable sexual and social experiences that Siegmund evokes in his beautiful narrative beginning
"Friedmund darf ich nicht heissen...."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mptnboU5m8g
have ENORMOUSLY much in common with the experience of a cam-john in his dealings with a cam-whore, particularly where - as in the case of two cam-whores who have recently been discussed on this board - the "whores" in question are girls one might conceivably have some emotional and human relation to.
You see, this is what someone like yourself, who - whether due to poverty, stupidity, or bitter class resentment, I cannot say - has never actually EXPERIENCED "high art" always totally misunderstands about it.
"Comparisons" between the situations that Wagner evokes and one's own experience - even (and maybe particularly) one's own sad and degraded and ugly experience - are NOT "deluded". They are exactly what Wagner WANTED. His art, like all art, was about LIFE - not, as you appear to think, about what cocktail one chooses to drink at the bar in the interval.