Gunslinger Girl: Italian loli assassins in school uniform kill people in hyper-kinetic battles, fall in unrequited love with their much older handlers. Good perv:fight:bawwww ratio.

Tossup between Evangelion and SEL.

And Rozenfags need to gtfo.

>>2 Italian loli assassins in school uniform kill people

Didn't Noir already do that one?

WIPO - Taxi Driver was fucking awesome.

SEL, because it's about Lia.

I voted Rozen Maiden.

Of all those I picked Lucky Star, but generally I'm a fan of harem anime and ghibli movies. I wasn't keen on Rozen Maiden, storyline was weak and annoying, enough to put me off despite the dresses and the tea and the Alice references.

WIPO: We don't give a fuck about weaboo shit.

>>9
The Royal We! Your majesty, you grace us with your presence.
>>4
Yeah, but Gunslinger Girl is more European in its referencing and structure, and the school uniforms are better. Noir is well worth watching though.

>>9 WIPO: We don't give a fuck about weaboo shit.

Well at least "we" don't incorporate meaningless temporary wordfilters into our permanent vocabulary.

>>11

Hey fuckface, pretty much every word you speak has been seen as temporary at some point and place. What now?

>>12

lern2read retard, I said temporary wordfilter... tell me, how many of "pretty much every word I speak" only acquired its meaning because it was randomly selected as a 4ailchan wordfilter?

>>13

lern2......? And you're criticizing my use of weaboo? lern2notspeakfromyourass, fuckface.

>>14
>>13

If we waste any more time on Weeaboo wish will be dead by the end of the week.

>>15

Holy shit, somebody did it right.

>>16
Actually I'm not sure whether I should've capitalised it...

... or no, apparently I was right to, muscle memory or something.

Weeaboo life has its ups. Sometimes.

wow... I've only watched three of those.

uhhh suggestions. Dr. Slump (70s version... only one episode subbed though but the comics were awesome), Perfect Blue (movie), Lupin III (first series) and I can't think of anything else.

>>18
Why not just get a real loli?

>>20
Corpse disposal is such a drag since forensics started using luminol, and good western loli art is far and few between, so wapanese stuff kind of pushes ahead by default.

>>21

You should rapidshare your lolis.

>>20

Why don't you?

>>6 SEL, because it's about Lia.

Repeat a lie loudly enough and often enough, and it becomes truth.

>>22

I have no rapidshare lolis but if you're referring to his img, the artist is fafi; http://www.fafi.net/images/images.html aka the biggest Miss Van ripoff of all time.

>>25

I was checking out the pics on that site, that fucker's gotta be a pedo.

>>26

You'd love Trevor Brown.

>>26

>checking out the pics

>gotta be a pedo

>>28

I could see that joke was coming so I had to before you fucks did and think yourself clever.

Trevor Brown is one of the best Western loli artists, and an all round great guy. http://www.anonym.to/?http://www.pileup.com/babyart/
>>22
I could mediafire some of the arty ones a bit later on. The boderline loli/ephebo ones I'd have to sort out into their own folder. At the moment my sort-time is dedicated to 10,000+ pics of Galitsin's Liza, so maybe next weekend.

>>29
Uh-huh. Remember, it's okay to embrace your feelings; they are your feelings, you are entitled to feel them.

>>31

wtf is that supposed to mean?

>>32
Okay, we'll take a step back. How did you feel when you saw those fafi images?

>>30

That's some fucked up shit there, though kind of kick ass. Where do you fucks keep finding this shit at?

>>34

>... shit... ass...

Would you consider cleanliness to be important to your daily life?

>>33

Fafi? You mean >>21? It's cute, nothing more. Only a pedo fuck would make it anything more. Yeah, there's a fine line between a girl and a woman and if you could get one, you wouldn't be jerking off to pics of lolis.

I take it you are threatened by grown women. Maybe you are intimidated by them and looking for something or someone you think you can control. I don't know wtf is going on with you fucks but maybe that's it. If that's the case, get out the fucking basement and just approach them. WTF can you lose? Maybe they'll give you hints they're not interested, if so, tell that bitch to fuck off and find another one. A bitch wants to be domineered. It doesn't matter if you're poor, ugly, and got a small dick, if you act like a fucking stud, hell, that makes up for a lot.

>>35

Yeah, but a clean mouth, that's a different story. I wouldn't even fucking touch that if I were you though or else I could go down the dirty mind alley, with you and your fucking pics.

>>36
So, it's cute, a pre-sexual emotion. Where then does your ascribing paedophilia to others who view the same images originate?

What are your opinions on child sexuality?

>>38

Ok, so cute can mean a mild attraction, as opposed to ugly or repulsion. And yes, a cute girl can be termed attractive but that's usually reserved for adult women. Where me and you fucking differ though, is that you're trying to make that fine line more arbitrary, whereas I, clearly see the point in having the standard 18+ law in the US or I could even go with the 16+ law in most of Europe.

I'm saying, if you're wanting to be a part of normal society, it's not fucking healthy to lure yourself and others in that trap with suggestive pics, whether clothed or not.

>>39
You didn't address either question. I am well aware of your received opinions, you offer them freely enough. If you really want to know what this is all about though, you're going to have to use some introspection and determine where those wrong recieved opinions originate.

Is David Attenborough into zoophilia or bestiality, based on the images of animal copulation he has consistently presented to the world for 40+ years?

>Where then does your ascribing paedophilia to others who view the same images originate?

Come on, you can fucking tell when someone's getting their rocks off on this shit. Like the person that posts suggestive loli pics over and over as opposed to the guy that stumbles upon them. Doesn't matter, if you're posting the shit, it's really not for me to say but for the law and yourself. But if I do give an opinion, I'm just expressing my freedom as you are posting loli pics.

>What are your opinions on child sexuality?

WTF kind of question is that. If a child is sexual, it's really none of our business unless we're the parent.

>>41
And all of a sudden you are using "we" and "our"... you're on dangerous psychoanalytical ground there.

>>42

You can analyze the fuck out of it. What I said is what I meant.

>>43
I can't even remember what that's called as an argumental flaw. Words don't have meaning until people apply meaning to them.

What you meant is what you MEANT.

>>41
That's better.

>you can fucking tell when someone's getting their rocks off on this shit

This is sentiment that lacks a base. What experience do you have to be able to make this assessment of strangers? I haven't inferred that you shouldn't express an opinion, but I am curious to know what you base that opinion on, if anything.

>WTF kind of question is that.

It's the question most relevant to this discussion. Child sexuality is what is at the heart of loli art, a theme rooted in childhood fantasy, with complicated and seemingly paradoxical twists and turns, "innocent perversion" being a good place to start.

It is very different from paedophilia, an adult, post-sexual condition that expresses itself through strong sexual attraction to bodies without secondary sexual characteristics on the physical level, and on a mental level expresses itself in an often denied power-control relationship.

>>45

What you do in your basement is none of my business but any human in our standard culture who gives a shit about his own mental health and/or trying to carry out a normal relationship with regular society wouldn't nurture bullshit like that.

You can make a connection with guys with my frame of mind who like physical corruption, eg, blowing shit up with those that want to corrupt the minds of innocent people but there's a difference, mine is more socially acceptable. If you want to know why, ask society. And I bet the general consensus' answer would be because maybe they have children of their own and when you mess with people's children or harbor such thoughts, most people don't like that shit.

>it's really none of our business unless we're the parent.

This is interesting too, but not completely relevant to the main theme. In what way is a person's sexuality the busines of their parents, other than perhaps the case of incestuous manifestations?

>>46

>gives a shit about his own mental health

Pretty much everyone here has a mild obsession with interpretive psychology, as you notice. Most of us do the psychological equivalent of hitting the gym every other day.

>>47

Because when you get in a position in life where you're responsible for them and you care for them, sexual matters can be a big issue. You're dealing with dangerous STD's and possible reproduction but I can't expect you fucks to understand since most of you consider it bragging rights in this shithole if you have a job.

>>46
So you draw your line firmly at what is considered to be socially acceptable within the society in which you reside, i.e the status quo as received?

This is defined by... what, exactly these days? Corporate newspapers, corporate television and film, law as practiced, religion? I could cite you many examples of a preference for paedophilia in all of these socially-defining institutions, none of which would equate to the aims or effects of loli art.

Why do you trust social power-structres to determine values of aesthetics? I'm not implying you have been dishonest about your response to loli art, I'm curious to determine whether there are other forms of aesthtics that you might have been told are unquestionably "wrong".

>>49
Your veiw of sexuality cannot possibly be so narrow as to simply be a list of physical by-products of biology. I'll redefine the question: would you discuss your favourite sexual fantasy with your parents? Would you have done so as a child? Why?

>>50

Defined by law which may consist mostly of parents. I think they have more say-so to determine how to safeguard their kids than the fucks that come here. When you have to be in charge of safegaurding someone, I'd hope you would understand that. Such interrogative conversationalists we have here.

But I probably have more in common with you guys than you may think. You seem like deep thinkers and when I'm on gaurd a lot, there's not much else to do but think. Maybe you're kind of social outcasts, and I'd say I'm more like that inside. I'm a really pessimistic fuck, if you haven't figured that out by now. I see so much good in the world but so much bullshit as well. Underneath that shell of a man pretending to be conformative to society, I find myself asking some of the same questions and have that yearning to go against conformity. Individuality is lost in a sea of uniforms. It's frowned upon in the military. But I thinking like that is rather unproductive though. I'm here, got a job to do, and gotta do it. We're not all afforded time to think about everything and question your stance on every view.

But regarding the latter question, I really don't have any deviant aesthetic tastes. Pretty much any pictures are legal to look at in most countries but pornography depicting children which is understandable. Though some consider my taste in gun porn kind of deviant if you're not into guns, but it's art as well. A fine gun is a symbol of power, as well as the sharp stab of a witty remark can be powerful when given the right audience and enough of it.

>>51

>would you discuss your favourite sexual fantasy with your parents?

No.

>Would you have done so as a child?

No.

>Why?

Because topics of such nature can be uncomfortable.

>>52
Please don't imagine that I've been implying you shouldn't be here, or you shouldn't state your opinions, anything negative like that. I was curious to determine the source of your opinions in this case, and you obliged. Thank you.

In my opinion, you assigned labels to other people and ideas too readily, without either understanding what those labels actually mean, or an awareness of where your own opinion originated. There is nothing uncommon about this, but it doesn't lend credence to a position.

Personally speaking, I can very readily determine the difference bewteen loli art and ephebophilic pornography, and I enjoy them both. I do not respond in a sexual way to paedophilic pornography, and in the case of visible exploitation, I am repulsed. I do not believe that any society has ever been equipped to determine an individual's response to aesthetics. But I guess that was obvious.

>>36 It doesn't matter if you're poor, ugly, and got a small dick, if you act like a fucking stud

Wow, you just confessed a lot right there.

>>55
I knew there was something I forgot. Thanks for getting that in there, would've been a complete waste of an opportunity.

>>53
So there is an element of child sexuality that is not predominatly the buisness of parents?

That's pretty much the point at which much of good loli art starts, and why taking a society-knows-best approach to labelling it as deviant is futile. Society activily pretends this sort of child sexuality doesn't exist, yet it does.

>>54

If I call someone a fag or pedofag, it is almost always intended trolling. Wouldn't life be so fucking dull if we were all nice to each other and didn't give each other a challenge of some kind? Whether it be challenging their temper, challenging their wits, or challenging their physical prowess, that's the spice of life.

The biggest trolls I've encountered in life were my Drill Sergeants in boot camp. Three fucking months they act like unsympathizing robots, then at the end, you realize it was all their game and they come out of their DS shell and treat you more human. I'm not sure that time is yet here. I'm still kind of weary of this fucking place to show much of my humanity. And I'll probably be back on duty soon before you guys get to know me much anyway, so not that it makes a fuck.

>>55

I couldn't give a shit if you fucks here think any of that. If you guys consider being poor, ugly, and having a small dick an insult, maybe you should grow the fuck up. I'm not an insecure fuckface so I couldn't really give a shit about anyone's financial status, looks, dick size, etc.

>>58
The spice must flow.

>I'm still kind of weary of this fucking place

This 'fucking place' practically runs on weariness.

>>57

Yes, it exists. Does that mean we have to perpetuate it?

>>59
Not necessarily an insult, but a disadvantage and an excuse to use against you when you present similar tactic.

>>61
We should at least question it, and attempt to learn something from it.

>>58

>that's the spice of life

Indeed, although when someone has to type "I was trolling, duh" generally means they weren't. Not that I think that's what you just did there.

I was a STAB for seven years, was this recent bootcamp your first taste of the forces?

>>61
In what ways does art perpetuate this particular human experience? How many lolis do you imagine actually view Trevor Brown, for example?

MySpace perpetuates more destructive behaviour in very young girls, if we are assessing the effects of persuasive imagery on real life.

>>62

Credit for tactical knowledge.

>>63

I say question first, then perpetuate later if deemed healthy for society. My interest is national security as well as anyone's if you actually care for yourself, your family, and those in your broad vicinity.

>I was a STAB for seven years, was this recent bootcamp your first taste of the forces?

It wasn't recent. It was five years ago. Went in soon after graduation.

>>65

I'm not saying it affects underage children, or lolis as most of you want to call them, necessarily but it spreads it to the minds of others. And with MySpace, it's usually peer to peer communication and most influences are from standard pop references. If a loli corrupts with imagery deemed negative by standard society, then it most likely came from someone intent on corrupting lolis or careless in it's delivery. I think this is just basic common sense.

>>66 My interest is national security

Fuck yeah, let's invade Iraq and arrest Saddam for planning 9/11!!

>>66

>I say question first

If someone rejects something out of hand as being deviant, or "bad for society" as a starting point, how can they then question it? The received conclusion is to dismiss it, which leaves no room for questions.

>standard society

Again, we're back to this vague term. The dominate social institution of 2008 is the Corporation, a psychopathic, amoral leagl construct designed to maximise profit. Why would you trust something this inherently flawed to determine what is best for life as a human?

Earlier you implied it is parents who should determine what was socially acceptable, yet this model would have 3 in 10 UK citizens promoting their received opinions onto the remaining 7 by the sole virtue of having reproduced. Would you trust the girl in the picture to make choices affecting your life in such a broad-sweeping, invasive manner?

>>68

Lame, shit's getting fucking old. Yeah, let's blame every officials actions on the soldiers. I'm a pawn of something greater, that's the way it is. You're a pawn of something greater, that's the way it is. What are you fighting for? Hypothetical answer. And why are you fighting for 'hypothetical answer'? Because 'hypothetical answer' needs to meet the conditions of 'hypothetical answer A'. And why are you fighting for 'hypothetical answer C'? Because 'hypothetical answer D' needs to meet the 'hypothetical answers' of condition D.

Case in point, you don't know who your master ultimately is, unless you believe in a god, and that is only a belief. You're just a pawn of something greater like everyone else. At the mercy of that something, you abide by it.

You say no, I have no master and can do anything I want. Anything you want is dictated by what you can naturally do. You're at the mercy of something whether you want to admit it or not. You're either trolling me or you're a fucking kid that lacks life experience.

>>70
I think what we're griping at (and yeah, we know it's been done) is the representation of military action as necessary to national security.

Of course, as a soldier it's not up to you to decide which wars to fight.

>If someone rejects something out of hand as being deviant, or "bad for society" as a starting point, how can they then question it? The received conclusion is to dismiss it, which leaves no room for questions.

Yeah, dismiss it as I would say until there's further proof no harm could come of it, just as in science. It's safe hold an early observation below a scientific law until further proof it can be verified.

>Earlier you implied it is parents who should determine what was socially acceptable, yet this model would have 3 in 10 UK citizens promoting their received opinions onto the remaining 7 by the sole virtue of having reproduced. Would you trust the girl in the picture to make choices affecting your life in such a broad-sweeping, invasive manner?

Yes, that should be appropriate. Are we allowed to vote until we attain proper age or life experience? They have children, they should know better of what they think is a healthy view for society to hold to spite negative influences on their children, the future of that country.

And yes, if she is of voting age and experience with children, wtf not? It's not going to affect anything unless you're into looking at pictures of naked lolis. It's not really a big deal and it's really not my fight. If you're into it, well, that's your fight if you think society should deem your view appropriate. It's really a non-issue for me as I have no kids and not interested in naked lolis, so I really couldn't give a shit.

>>71

Don't think I haven't asked myself the same or asked myself wtf am I trying to protect? Our society from another culture? Our society from other ways of governing people? I know in the end, we're more like each other than most of us want to admit and things like cultures and ways of governing are more semantic. I was just born here and grew up here so it's just the side I happen to be on. Whether war is right or wrong is not for me to decide, it's for the others. I could wonder of the purpose of everything and in the end, I would really reach no conclusion. I'd be wandering endlessly through life being lost. I think we're all lost, it's just that most of us pretend we're not and it's so inscribed in us who we are, what we are, what we are to do, and where we are to go, most of us think that really is the answer. The difference between right/wrong, good/bad, black/white, reality/non-reality grows more and more blurred the more we ask ourselves these questions and the harder it is to hide how lost we are. To sum it up, life's a cryptic bitch you can't ultimately choose sides because nobody's got the ultimate answer so we sometimes just stick with what side we find ourselves on. And if I stay here much longer, I'll be putting on mascara and cutting myself because it spurs shit like this in me.

>just as in science

If this theme was one of empirical observation, your initial stance would have precluded any investigation into the subject based solely on a received opinion from an undefined source.

We'll have to disagree about the parents -know -best -by -default attitude towards aethetics, and, well... anything else. Given that the vast majority of child abuse occurs within a child's own home and from a relative, I'd say parents were the biggest cause of physical and mental harm to children in this country after the junk food industry.

>we sometimes just stick with what side we find ourselves on

True, and that doesn't inherently make that side "correct". However unpleasant, war is a necessity of civilisation, and frankly speaking I'd rather be on the winning side sitting on top of a pile of unjustly killed corpses than be a corpse in the pile.

>And if I stay here much longer

Cracky-chan attracts a type, and I think you're it. Stick around, it'll be fun.

Deathnote was fun to watch.

>>74

Interesting you should say that. I'm not sure what attracted me to Cracky. Maybe the dark side of life that she portrays. I guess if I would've looked around enough, I'd find similar. I could understand the interest but not quite the hardcore Cracky faggotry I've seen displayed on /b/ and now here. I'd say her amateur portrayal seems more attractive than Cracky herself. Whatever the case, I found it odd her following and the more odd something is, the more it peaks my curiosity.

>>75

Fuck, reminds me how far we got off topic. And I reverberate, fuck anime. I'd recommend Clockwork Orange, Fight Club, Apocolypse Now, shit, too many to say. I've watched anime and just couldn't get into it.

Oh wow, I'm the only one who voted for Big-O.

;_;

>>78 the only one who voted for Big-O

Didn't really care for it. Then again, I watched the dub, maybe the original's better? First season was episodic/pointless, second season tried to go for a mindfuck / Evangelion ending, but didn't really pull it off in a way that satisfied me.

>>78
Haven't seen it, would you summarise it?

Also, early Bleach, if only for ruki.

>>80 would you summarise it

See pic; the loli is a robot, the guy is a tomato, and the woman is God or something. At the end, we find out that the city is actually built on a giant stage and all humans are actually characters in a play, or something.

>>81
Thanks, I'll give it a go after the Lupin marathon ends.

>>81
Sounds trippy. Downloading, because everything feels too fast now my torrent qeue is empty again.

How can we forget paprika?

>>83

It's not really trippy until the last few episodes... but I hope you enjoy it. I didn't dislike it, but I thought the first season was mostly filler & the second season didn't really come together right.

>>84

Gotta watch that again... I downloaded a crappy fabsub shortly after initial release & it got really out of sync; should be able to find a better one now.

>>85
Yeah, it's even worth it just for the music.

WIP: animu is trash.

I just downloaded Elfen Lied and watched the first episode.

WTF?!

Haha, oh wow.

It even shows back-labia. You never see back-labia in anime.

Yes indeed, Elfen Lied has earned my approval in just two episodes.

This entire thread is cancer.

>>91

Your entire face is cancer.